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Scaling Laws
Scaling Laws explores (and occasionally answers) the questions that keep OpenAI’s policy team up at night, the ones that motivate legislators to host hearings on AI and draft new AI bills, and the ones that are top of mind for tech-savvy law and policy students. Co-hosts Alan Rozenshtein, Professor...
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Is AI conscious? How can we know? And, if so, what next?
Mosharaf Chowdhury, associate professor at the University of Michigan and director of the ML Energy lab, and Dan Zhao, AI researcher at MIT, GoogleX,...

AI Safety Meet Trust & Safety with Ravi Iyer and David Sullivan
David Sullivan, Executive Director of the Digital Trust & Safety Partnership, and Rayi Iyer, Managing Director of the Psychology of Technology Institu...

Rapid Response: California Governor Newsom Signs SB-53
In this Scaling Laws rapid response episode, hosts Kevin Frazier and Alan Rozenshtein talk about SB-53, the frontier AI transparency (and more) law th...

The Ivory Tower and AI (Live from IHS's Technology, Liberalism, and Abundance Conference).
Neil Chilson, Head of AI Policy at the Abundance Institute, and Gus Hurwitz, Senior Fellow and CTIC Academic Director at Penn Carey Law School and Dir...

AI and Young Minds: Navigating Mental Health Risks with Renee DiResta and Jess Miers
Alan Rozenshtein, Renee DiResta, and Jess Miers discuss the distinct risks that generative AI systems pose to children, particularly in relation to me...

AI Copyright Lawsuits with Pam Samuelson
On today's Scaling Laws episode, Alan Rozenshtein sat down with Pam Samuelson, the Richard M. Sherman Distinguished Professor of Law at the University...

AI and the Future of Work: Joshua Gans on Navigating Job Displacement
Joshua Gans, a professor at the University of Toronto and co-author of "Power and Prediction: The Disruptive Economics of Artificial Intelligence," jo...

The State of AI Safety with Steven Adler
Steven Adler, former OpenAI safety researcher, author of Clear-Eyed AI on Substack, and independent AGI-readiness researcher, joins Kevin Frazier, AI...

Contrasting and Conflicting Efforts to Regulate Big Tech: EU v. US
Anu Bradford, Professor at Columbia Law School, and Kate Klonick, Senior Editor at Lawfare and Associate Professor at St. John's University School of...

Uncle Sam Buys In: Examining the Intel Deal
Peter E. Harrell, Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Center for a New American Security, joins Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University...

AI in the Classroom with MacKenzie Price, Alpha School co-founder, and Rebecca Winthrop, leader of the Brookings Global Task Force on AI in Education
MacKenzie Price, co-founder of Alpha School, and Rebecca Winthrop, a senior fellow and director of the Center for Universal Education at the Brookings...

The Open Questions Surrounding Open Source AI with Nathan Lambert and Keegan McBride
Keegan McBride, Senior Policy Advisor in Emerging Technology and Geopolitics at the Tony Blair Institute, and Nathan Lambert, a post-training lead at...

Export Controls: Janet Egan, Sam Winter-Levy, and Peter Harrell on the White House's Semiconductor Decision
Alan Rozenshtein, research director at Lawfare, sat down with Sam Winter-Levy, a fellow in the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Car...

Navigating AI Policy: Dean Ball on Insights from the White House
Join us on Scaling Laws as we delve into the intricate world of AI policy with Dean Ball, former senior policy advisor at the White House's Office of...

The Legal Maze of AI Liability: Anat Lior on Bridging Law and Emerging Tech
In this episode, we talk about the intricate world of AI liability through the lens of agency law. Join us as Anat Lior explores the compelling case f...

Values in AI: Safety, Ethics, and Innovation with OpenAI's Brian Fuller
Brian Fuller, product policy leader at OpenAI joins Kevin on the challenges of designing policies that ensure AI technologies are safe, aligned, and s...

Because of Woke: Renée DiResta and Alan Rozenshtein on the ‘Woke AI’ Executive Order
Renée DiResta, an Associate Research Professor at the McCourt School of Public Policy at Georgetown join Alan Rozenshtein and Kevin Frazier, to take a...

Moving the AGI Goal Posts: AI Skepticism with Sayash Kapoor
In this episode of Scaling Laws, Kevin Frazier is joined by Sayash Kapoor, co-author of "AI Snake Oil," to explore the complexities of AI development...

A New AI Regulatory Regime? SB 813 with Lauren Wagner and Andrew Freedman
In this episode, join Kevin Frazier as he delves into the complex world of AI regulation with experts Lauren Wagner of the Abundance Institute and And...

AI Action Plan: Janet Egan, Jessica Brandt, Neil Chilson, and Tim Fist
Janet Egan, Senior Fellow with the Technology and National Security Program at the Center for a New American Security, Jessica Brandt, Senior Fellow f...

Lt. Gen Jack Shanahan: Defense's AI Integration
Lt. Gen. (ret) Jack Shanahan joins Kevin Frazier to explore the nuanced landscape of AI in national security. Challenging the prevalent "AI arms race"...

Eugene Volokh: Navigating Libel and Liability in the AI Age
Kevin Frazier brings Eugene Volokh, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and UCLA law professor, to explore the complexities of libel in the age...

Cass Madison and Zach Boyd: State Level AI Regulation
Cass Madison, the Executive Director of the Center for Civic Futures, and Zach Boyd, Director of the AI Policy Office at the State of Utah, join Kevin...

Ethan Mollick: Navigating the Uncertainty of AI Development
In this episode of Scaling Laws, Alan and Kevin discuss the current state of AI growth, focusing on scaling laws, the future of AGI, and the challenge...

The AI Moratorium Goes Down in Flames
On the inaugural episode of Scaling Laws, co-hosts Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior E...

TRAILER: SCALING LAWS
Scaling Laws explores (and occasionally answers) the questions that keep OpenAI’s policy team up at night, the ones that motivate legislators to host...

Matt Perault, Ramya Krishnan, and Alan Rozenshtein Talk About the TikTok Divestment and Ban Bill
Last week the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a bill that would require ByteDance, the Chinese company that owns the popular social med...

Jawboning at the Supreme Court
Today, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem.
On March 18, the Supreme Court heard oral ar...

How Are the TikTok Bans Holding Up in Court?
In May 2023, Montana passed a new law that would ban the use of TikTok within the state starting on January 1, 2024. But as of today, TikTok is still...

Jeff Horwitz on Broken Code and Reporting on Facebook
In 2021, the Wall Street Journal published a monster scoop: a series of articles about Facebook’s inner workings, which showed that employees within t...

Will Generative AI Reshape Elections?
Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve probably heard a great deal over the last year about generative AI and how it’s going to reshape variou...

The Crisis Facing Efforts to Counter Election Disinformation
Over the course of the last two presidential elections, efforts by social media platforms and independent researchers to prevent falsehoods from sprea...

Talking AI with Data and Society’s Janet Haven
Today, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem. And we’re discussing the hot topic of the moment:...

What Impact did Facebook Have on the 2020 Elections?
How much influence do social media platforms have on American politics and society? It’s a tough question for researchers to answer—not just because i...

Brian Fishman on Violent Extremism and Platform Liability
Earlier this year, Brian Fishman published a fantastic paper with Brookings thinking through how technology platforms grapple with terrorism and extre...

Cox and Wyden on Section 230 and Generative AI
Generative AI products have been tearing up the headlines recently. Among the many issues these products raise is whether or not their outputs are pro...

An Interview with Meta’s Chief Privacy Officers
In 2018, news broke that Facebook had allowed third-party developers—including the controversial data analytics firm Cambridge Analytica—to obtain lar...

Eugene Volokh on AI Libel
If someone lies about you, you can usually sue them for defamation. But what if that someone is ChatGPT? Already in Australia, the mayor of a town out...

A TikTok Ban and the First Amendment
Over the past few years, TikTok has become a uniquely polarizing social media platform. On the one hand, millions of users, especially those in their...

Ravi Iyer on How to Improve Technology Through Design
On the latest episode of Arbiters of Truth, Lawfare's series on the information ecosystem, Quinta Jurecic and Alan Rozenshtein spoke with Ravi Iyer, t...